Nearly 13,500 American Airlines pilots and flight attendants agree to He needed to keep a level head even though he was obviously affronted this demand. If he got "fired" 2 years ago and already depleted everything he got, what was his long-term plan to live 15-30 years or so with his 401K? Maybe he was sick, or a family member was sick, and it cost a fortune cancer treatment, is upwards of 300k. I would be willing to bet he never treated his employer as poorly as they have treated him! The airline contractor clearly asked for a specify person. In one case, which had a Miami hearing on Oct. 19 , an administrative law judge at a National Transportation Safety Board hearing ruled that the FAA took his license illegally. July 2021 - Envoy is pleased to announce the return of a bonus for all new hire pilots. Would love your thoughts, please comment. They are tasked with assuring that American Airlines operation is reliable, not only for our pilots but most importantly for our passengers, Allied Pilots Association spokesman Dennis Tajer said. So AA told FAA to take away his license and the FAA was wrong here. You should reach out to John, you seem to share the same level of understanding. They, in turn, went to American Airlines claiming their employee is harassing them and sought to cancel him. The airline transport pilot license is required to operate as captain on a "large commercial multi-crew aircraft," according to the Johannesburg School of Flying. There are only 2 pilots ..9 sometimes 11 flight attendants. The unions board of directors representing 14,000 pilots at American Airlines pinned some of the periods of heavy cancellations and flight delays this summer on the operations team that helps run the companys day-to-day flight schedule. So the union's hands were tied. But no last name? The two companies were seeking a dismissal. Major airlines expected to hire record number of pilots in 2022, Aviation Industry to Face Post-Pandemic Pilot Shortage, In North America, a Shortage of 12,000 Commercial Pilots Is Expected by 2023. He previously worked as a business journalist for the Orlando Sentinel, Tulsa World and The Monitor in McAllen. You make wild assumptions with zero info. All of those members are still able to perform their duties as professional pilots, the letter continued. This program is in addition to the $15,000 signing bonus Envoy is offering new pilots today and will make it even more attractive for candidates who want to join the Envoy team. All airlines getting worse. I got fired for "almost theft" I was going to steal something, but then I felt overwhelmed with guilt and panic . I would have asked to see the paperwork and the name to verify. I would be willing to AA and the drug testing company botched the entire testing procedure. All info is printed on a form with labels to place on 2 specimen cups and a signature is required. February 28, 2021 - I've been on the receiving end of having my ATC license taken away for medical reasons because of the FAA's archaic and behind the times rules. March 2, 2021 - In North America, a shortage of 12,000 commercial pilots is expected by 2023, driven by mandatory and COVID-related retirements. Guy Midkiff, a 62-year-old Southlake, TX resident, has come under fire for criticizing a . I would not have just kept walking. Only a Professional Airline Pilot knows All the sacrifices made , money spent during all those years of flight training , all those nights away from home and loved ones. Unfortunately this incident has completely changed his life. He needs to get his job back and then some. American Airlines Investigating Pilot For Criticizing Diversity He cannot be retrained quickly enough to fly before his 65th birthday in January. This man was a faithful employee who got the boot right as he was getting ready for retirement. Most performed their duties well, but we're identified ONLY via unscheduled drug testing. Why would the captain not pick up the phone when something like this just happened? There is no mistaking the patient. Companies do this regularly. According to his testimony, nearly 100 regional aircraft are parked at United due to the ongoing pilot shortage. Amtrak is wholly reliant on the government to survive. The airline does not have the latitude, however, to allow the pilot to keep flying if he bore any fault in not figuring out the issue at the time it happened. DeWitt Ingram joined American Airlines predecessor MetroJet in 1999. Walking off and being dismissive was not a practical decision. March 1, 2021 - Starting February 23, 2021, United will resume interviewing eligible Aviate applicants from across our partner network: universities, flight schools, Part 135 operators and United Express carriers. It is not to much to ask! The pilot and the airline settled and the case was marked secret in the court system at the request of both parties. He had just landed in Miami after working a flight. I would not only suit AA and Euling companies, but I will also would go and suit APA , the Pilots union representing all 15,000 Professional Pilots at AA for not following through. The airline says the. Yes they pronounce the wrong name or said it wrong I think he knew it and just wanted to say hey they said the name wrong I'm leaving I'm going home to the hotel. Analytics cookies help website owners to understand how visitors interact with websites by collecting and reporting information anonymously. CHICAGO (WLS) -- United Airlines said it has fired almost 600 employees for refusing to get vaccinated against COVID, despite the mandate the company put in place. Three Sun Country fleet employees have claimed the airline fired them in retaliation for their support of a union approved in January. He will be well compensated for both mistakes SHAME SHAME SHAME on you AA, Monica: "What kind of loves are pilots living". The law states that we can store cookies on your device if they are strictly necessary for the operation of this site. The FAA took this one individual's report as being truth before even getting a second conformation to validate this accusation. Okay, so my father retired from UAL and the Navy. The dude probably makes +300K USD (Capitan easily +500K USD), so at least 5x what i make. Completely a big and desastrous mistake done by the Airline and the people in charge of taking the Drug text.I certainly hope this pilot win his case in court and be compensated for time loss, his reputatin and good name be clarify.My best wishes and luck to him ! I don't want someone who makes bad decision flying me around. Two months later, American fired him. After the FAA presented its case, APA special counsel Sue Edwards made a motion to dismiss the case based upon the lack of credible factual evidence produced by the FAA, Sicher said. March 2021 - Endeavor is hiring pilots again - join our growing team! As for 'Sticking around' to 'Clarify' anything is a joke. This time they will have to pay for their BIG mistakes.. That contractor guy should have waited to talk to the pilot so he can confirm for himself if the pilot was the one really randomly selected for the drug test, not just maliciously remarking that the pilot 'refused' to take the test, just blatant incompetence, hope he be fired for grave negligence.. He,should have ask to ask for ID to verify the name of the pilot. And in the case we see here, this principle became the . Airline pilots are subjected to random drug testing, which is totally fair when you consider how much responsibility they have. I worked at AAL for 11 years. In August 2020, Ingram, 64, became trapped in a nightmarish scenario involving a botched attempt by an employee of a ground services company. American Airlines to Hire 440 Pilots by the End of 2021. An employee for Eulen America, the ground services company that does drug testing for American Airlines, asked the flight attendant at the door for a pilot named David.. I was a flight attendant but things were not so bad then. Exhausted his 401K and sold cars and shares to survive ? I consent to the use of following cookies: Necessary cookies help make a website usable by enabling basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website. Moonman was a prolific, but mostly harmless youtuber at a different AA wholly owned then this guy. I would have tried to clear it up on site. An American Airlines pilot was fired and had his pilot license revoked by the FAA after a botched drug test situation. With 18 domiciles, a fleet of over 450 aircraft and growing, and flying agreements with four mainline partners United, Delta, American and Alaska SkyWest offers the best quality of life for pilots. I worked at AAL for 11 years. Maybe if the contractor's mistake is not asking for dimwit to take the test. Not sure they state the rank of the person on the testing order. The random part of drug testing makes waiting 2 weeks to taste the Everything Bagel much more difficult, if not impossible. Granted, if the AA calls came in hours later, maybe the captain was sleeping. The Airline and Contractor was wrong! Unvaxxed American Airlines Pilots to be fired Nov 24 - the union wants Is it true that in the USA, pilots have only a first name and no surname. See all new ATP instructors who started in the last 12 months and learn about their backgrounds on the ATP CFI page. After 40 years working no savings or anything ? Nothing about this was the pilots fault. 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How about asking for the last name or employee number? Now, of course in retrospect, I think its worth acknowledging that there might have been a better way to handle this. He was combative with other crew, passengers and airline staff and ultimately failed the drug test and was fired by the airline. Southwest pilot sentenced for watching porn mid-flight - New York Post As for the captain, sounds like he would have known how serious this stuff was, why walk off like nothing happened? Cancel Culture Community Attempts to Get American Airlines Pilot Fired American Airlines Pilot Upset His Photo Was Used in Story About - TMZ Courts Side With American Airlines Pilot Fired After He Declined Flawed Now lets add this pilot judgement level with MCAS. Sounds a little too fishy on (THAT) part. There are 3 checkmarks. I'm Being Trolled By An American Airlines Pilot - One Mile at a Time Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. I have been accused of being over cautious. I do not understand why they do not do more random drug tests in the medical field. The union only represents you when you get disciplined by the company. As a DOT has not truck driver I can tell you whatever presented with a drug test request the employee requesting the test is giving a form with a typewritten name of the testy and other information which is there to verify their ID if you didn't have the form or the pilot didn't stop to look at the form and say this is not me then it can create a gray area in the As a DOT has not truck driver I can tell you whatever presented with a drug test request the employee requesting the test is giving a form with a typewritten name of the testy and other information which is there to verify their ID if you didn't have the form or the pilot didn't stop to look at the form and say this is not me then it can create a gray area in the matter of the lawsuit the pilot should have stopped ask to see the form verified it wasn't him and then moved on would have saved him a whole lot of trouble. Nothing about this was the pilots fault. An additional identifying detail usually asked from a person who is asked to submit to a blood test is the date of birth. Both the testing company and the airline need to pay an amount that they will learn and remember that if they are unjustly negligent with an employes well being that they will be the ones to ultimately pay. Maybe if the contractor's mistake is not asking for dimwit to take the test. Theres still junk everywhere. Okay, so this whole thing sounds fishy. I agree that they both screwed up. If you are not the person they are asking for & notified them as so, then continued on your way. Delta has told its pilots it plans to have them all back to flying status by October to get ready for a return to more normal operations. My brother and I grew up around aircraft our whole lives. United's experience underscores that very few workers - usually fewer than 1% - are willing to quit or get fired . Then againlong trip and someone is asking for someone else, you are in go-home mode. Ingram needs to be made whole for the loss of his earnings, the loss of his license, and the abuse he was administered.. At AAL the racism was advocated in the most back stabbing way by the union officials. Good luck to you Captain. My FAA incident was long before I went there. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. Scares the CR** out of me. Our pilots are safety conscious and customer oriented. The pilot if he had nothing to hide should have taken the drug test. So even if he got his job back he couldn't work without that license. I'd love for other crewmembers to chime in to tell what procedures exist or existed at their airline. A supply shortage might also mean higher pilot salaries. Better sell the third Maserati too! American Airlines tells TMZ the pilot who made the announcement was in uniform but not flying the plane that day. A judge has ruled that the FAA took away Ingrams license illegally. They claimed bankruptcy, just to screw all the retirees, and opened right back up. April 2021 - Delta Air Lines said Wednesday it will resume hiring new pilots, following other carriers in preparing for future staffing as travel demand rebounds. Southwest under fire after video surfaces purportedly showing pilot The increases would make the pilots the highest paid of the U.S. regional airlines, ramping up pressure on other carriers to follow suit. American Airlines and the FAA essentially took the stance that his failure to complete the test constituted a refusal, while the pilot repeatedly and consistently insisted that he had never been notified that he was selected for a random test, since the contractor said it was for someone named David.. to fulfillment of my lifelong dream of becoming an airline pilot," he said. How I wish I could go back to 2000 and live in that picture and the simple life of joy and pride I once had, he said. Pilots who start training and building their hours now will be among the most competitive. I a civil Court I would go for the Euling employee who surrender the refusal report as well. So even if he got his job back he couldn't work without that license. Anyone who voted for Dementia Joe deserves what they got. Sooo disappointed. Pilots at four U.S. airlines are now seeing significantly larger paychecks as the industry faces a pilot shortage. My last name is frequently garbled, despite being pronounced exactly as written, and it takes only a few seconds to ask, "did you mean XYZ?" He was terminated without cause. An identity document with photo should also be used in an important case like the one described here. My brother had achieve his commercial pilot's license and when my father passed away, I had taken my portion of our inheritance to get both my son and I a private pilot's license. Products?! He may not be totally in the right and easy to second guess, but to claim he spent all his money and thus must be guilty ignores the real cost of litigation. He could have asked the Contractor for the full name on the requisition for the drug test.